I'm sorry, but the whole debate over what something not real represents seems silly to me. In an essay I wrote in response to a prompt to discuss whether and to what extent one might pactice Nepsis, which is connected to awareness of Christ Consciousness, which many on this platform write they accomplish from their own understanding of Jesus, not some biblical BS, I wrote in my https://medium.com/promptly-written/lets-talk-about-the-egotistical-human-b-l-sh-t-about-enlightenment-7091502e9fe3: "Immaculate conception — give me a fucking break. Mary and Joseph were husband and wife — no chance on God’s green earth she was a virgin. Does that mean the conception was not immaculate? Does that mean Jesus was not the child of God? No. Both are true. It takes more than a sperm entering an egg to create a life. Soul must enter and use its energy to trigger the cascade of cell division that follows. Every soul is part of God. Every single human being, every living being in the universe, is a child of God. Every conception is immaculate!!!"