Well Myriam, my sister, now that you mention it, when I use the term spiritual, I use it in a manner that transcends the binary of theism versus atheism. One can act entirely spiritual with or without a belief in “god” however one understands that term. Spirituality only requires empathy, compassion, and love. Now back to the specific and expansive conversation we are having here, exaggerating your view of qualified to make a point, the human population would proceed toward extinction if only those that meet your test were to have children. You have stated that it's ok to make mistakes which of course it is as generally one must make mistakes to learn, and that includes parents, so I still find your bar a bit high though I understand fully whence it comes.